Left to right ... David 10, Katie 9, Carl 6, Lily 1.5, Nora 11 | 2000 pic

Left to right ... Carl 14, Katie 17, David 18, Lily 9, Nora 19 | 2008 pic

Left to right ... Carl 14, David 18, Katie 17, Nora 19, Lily 9 | 2008 pic